October 9th, 2003

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Vancouver’s Homeless Problem

I’ve been thinking, lately, about Vancouver’s homeless problem. Having lived in Europe for a couple of years, and having visited many cities throughout the Continent, I was struck by how few homeless people they had. When I returned to Vancouver, I was really surprised by the number of apparent homeless I saw in Vancouver. I was recently talking to a Texan who had moved to our fair city, and she said the biggest difference was how many people there were on the street. In Texas, she said, they just threw them in prison. Efficient, but neither practical or humane.

This article blames the dot-com crash and increased drug use for homelessness. The dot-com crash? If you were employed during the dot-com boom, them presumably you’ve got some employable skills. Regardless, I’m confounded by why our city in particular has such a problem. I suppose it’s the warm weather and traditionally leftwing governments.

Personally, I don’t know what to think. I figure that homeless people fit on a scale, with able-bodied, mentally-sound people on one end and the addicted, the mentally ill and the aged on the other. In truth, I’ve got no time for the one end and compassion for the other. I’m no urban planner, or sociologist, or homeless advocate, so I don’t really have solutions to propose. However, it’s clear to me that the two types of people I’ve described should be treated in radically different ways.

Obviously, this is an issue that needs to be resolved. Like them or not, the Olympics provide a good motivation for making changes. The international media will eat this issue up if there are as many street people kicking around the city as there are today.

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This reminds me of something that happened to me yesterday… waiting in the left hand turn lane on Terminal Ave. to go onto Main St., an apparently homeless woman was wandering down the street beside my row of cars, asking each driver for change. Before she got to my window, but right in front of my vehicle, she whipped down her pants and fully mooned all the cars in front of me. It was REALLY hard not to laugh in front of her.

Anyhow, if you’re interested in the homeless issue, check out some of the debates in City Council lately. They’re dealing with a new bylaw regarding single-room occupancies, which are usually the last stop before total homelessness for people on welfare. Based on some of the stats I’ve seen, the homelessness problem will only be increasing as long as welfare payments continue to be frozen or decreased, because landlords of SROs won’t be decreasing or freezing the rent. This forces more and more people into the streets (or parks, recently).

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Er … Have you been to London recently ?

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Part of why we have such a high homeless population here is the climate. That doesn’t explain the comparison to Europe, but I know that many homeless people from across Canada (especially in the winter) come here because they aren’t likely to freeze to death. Can’t say the same for, say, Toronto or Winnepeg.

Victoria, too, has an extremely high homeless population for the same reason.

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A disused industrial site at Green Square will become Sydney’s first legal squat, where students will live for a token sum pending redevelopment of the site. Six art students and four architecture students are due to move into the dilapidated Waverley-Woollahra incinerator within the next three weeks pending approval from South Sydney Council. The project already has tentative support from the property’s owners, Waverley Council and Woollahra Council

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/06/1065292527665.html

It’s one possible solution, but not for everyone. The not so legal squat off Broadway in Sydney used to be a great place, definitely preferable to the hideous yuppie containment chamber it got bulldozed to build

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I am a foot messanger in the downtown core of Vancouver. I have been walking amongst the homeless citizens of Van. for almost three years. I have come to know many individuals who are asking for change, squeeging windows of cars…and yes I have seen that woman on Terminal who walks between cars to beg for change.

Not all our homeless are people who are strung out on drugs, looking for their next fix. Many of them are our elderly and ill citizens. If you take a close look, you will see many people in wheelchairs. Ever stop and talk to any of them? I have personal relationships with some of these people. Many of them are clean and free of illegal drugs. I know of a man who is having numberous surgeries with neurological problems. I know of another man with Colits, one with Cerebral Palsy, and others with missing limbs, for whatever reason. They are on the street because we haven’t looked after our sick and elderly. Our hospitals are closing and the budget is being slashed. Where are these sick individuals going to go for help? Health care is not in a good state. We don’t have enough resources to treat our ill. Our gov’t is making it more difficult to be on the welfare system, limiting it to two years. Who is going to help them? They are just happy IF they can get enough money to pay for an $8.00 - $12.00 bed in a hostile for the night.

Vancouver also has many individuals from our First Nations population whom we have treated disrespectfully since the beginning. They are the result of our govt’ interfering and keeping the natives in turmoil by forcing them to integrate and assimulate into our society. Giving up their rights and land.

We have people on the street for many reasons, so many I can’t get into them all. However way they became homeless we need to regard them as people and come to viable solution, for if we push them out of one area, they will only move on to the next. That is no solution. They need help, bottom line.

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wow….

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amaziing…..>

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Last night I was out in Coquitlam and was approached by a young man begging for money. At first I said no but then I asked him what he needed this for. He replied that he needed 20.00 to get into a hostel/shelter. I asked him old he was to which he replied that he was 16 years old. I offered him the heat of my car and although he was very nervous he did get in and I warmed him up for a little while. He told me that his Mom and Dad were drug users and he had no family that were interested in helping him out. I offered to drive him to the shelter because I wanted to make sure he had a warm place to sleep but he was waiting for a guy to bring him osme clothes and he didn’t wnat to miss this person. So right or wrong I gave him the 20 and left. But before I left he kept hugging me and telling me that he loved me.

How can this happen in a place like Vancouver. How incredibly sad that his parents chose drugs over their son. And what prospects does this child have? And here I am staying with my friend after leaving my partner. I have a warm bed, food and tv. Something is very wrong here.

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I have only been in Vancouver for a month and a half now and well within an hour of arriving in this great city (oh it is great by the way) I found myself asking the question how can Canada, Vancouver more specifically, a place continually ranked in the top ten for places to live have an issue like this on its doorstep.

It saddens me deeply to know that I am going home to a warm bed and hearty meal at the end of the day. I have no qualms at giving to these people, however all I am told is don’t give money to them they are all addicts….what even the old woman I see every week on the corner of robson street or the 70 year old man who tries his best to look smart and respectful yet has no choice but to as for change…from someone half his age…

Having recently been in India I thought I had seen it all I really did, unfortunately my time so far in Vancouver leaves me thinking that maybe it too is tending towards teh third world, as in such a great country with all these natural resources you could wipe out an issue like this overnight. Yes I know the UK has its problems but we get immigrants by the thousands that fly and catch the ferry in every day….so it is inevitable that this is going to be an issue for us too, however if I am not mistaken the homeless people in Canada are most likley citizens of this country…so much for society huh….the solution? I wonder what will happen in the year before the Olympics…it will be very embarressing and I am sure eye opening for the rest of the world if things haven’t changes…then again you could do like the Texans and put everyone in jail, at least they would be warm.

Ste

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I had never been to Vancouver before. I really haven’t travelled much out of Saskatchewan, only to Calgary, Edmonton and a couple times to RedDeer. I booked a room at the Best Western on Hastings for the few days I was going to be visiting Vancouver on my hunnymoon, since it was said to be near downtown. My husband and I decided to take public transit everywhere since it is cheaper and you get to see more of the city ( I am very impressed with the public transit in vancouver by the way. Very efficent and the drivers are wonderful). To get downtown we had to drive through Hastings. The area got worse and worse. The buidings bcame more vandalized, more windows were boarded up. I started to see people laying on the sidewalk with thin blankets. More people where walking down the street with carts full of cans and junk. it was a very startling first impression of Vancouver. We had to take that bus alot to get to and from the hotel. I saw people come on there that were on serious drugs, postitutes trying to catch a “friend” on the bus. At one point I was afraid that a very intoxicated man was going to pick a fight with my husband. But off the bus we met homeless people that kept to themselves, were helpful and polite and just wated to go about their business unnoticed. They were old, sick looking, and nonthreatening. I hope that something can be done. I guess I just wonder how many other people visit our fair country and have a similar first impression.

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Homelessness is a huge issue and I believe it goes hand in hand with mental illness and other sicknesses. That is why I am absolutely appalled at the notion that the Provinvial government is considering turing Riverview in coquitlam into joint condos (for sale) and rehab facilities. for those of you who aren’t familiar, Riverview is a large property that was once devoted to mentally ill patients. It has been cut down, and most of those people are probably on the streets. So… I just can’t understand why the government won’t reno it and make it full capacity for those who need it. We already have condos coming out the ying yang in the lower mainland.

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Check out the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram today (Oct. 28, 2007) Opinion Section. Then you will see that Texas just doesn’t throw the homeless in jail. Kind of tells you not to believe everything everyone says.

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I am touring the cafes on main street. One of the problems for these cafes are the homeless people that come into the cafe and ask people for change. One day on two seperate occasions there was a scene with yelling and aggression. Since I have come back from travelling I have also noticed a rise in numbers and with this comes a higher level of desperation and search for resources (for these people).
I find it dispicable that we can actually write something like, this is a problem and we need to clean it up for the Olympics (which seems to arise in all my conversations when this topic comes up). Shame on us if we only feel the need to clean up this problem because of the Olympics… that should have nothing to do with it.

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I visited Vancouver in August and was so shocked at the number of homeless people on the streets of such a beautiful, wonderful city. I have never witnessed this before, and I have travelled the world a great deal. It is such a let down to and so very sad. This is now November and I still cannot stop thinking about those poor people. What a shame.

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I am 20 and have lived in Vancouver all of my life. It seems that everyday there are more homeless people living on East Hastings and other streets, and this is truly saddening.

I take this issue to heart because this is my city, and I hate to have its named tarnished by this fixable problem. But I don’t care just about how Vancouver looks to a worldwide audience, as some people have taken to doing. I feel more strongly that we (the people and the governemnt) have failed these people and
we owe it to them to do something about it. Don’t get me wrong, the homeless people themselves have an equal part in a solution, but we must give them somewhere to help themselves.

I am an Interactive Design (read: Web Design) student at Cap College, and I have decided to create a webpage to illustrate and educate people about the problem of homelessness.

I would love any suggestions anyone has for a direction… please email me at matt@blindsitedesigns.com

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This is because women stealing their husbands money and houses after they seek divorces, this because Canadian law fight real men in favour of gays to make it easier for the bankers to keep stealing the country. This proves that the high taxes in Canada including real estate is just to steal people money to let them become slave to the banker and their usury manipulation. Keep advancing Canada.

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This is for the bank culture made that is established by the bankers in North America. Get a loan to buy a big house, get a loan to buy an unneeded big car, become a slave to us, the bankers and we will put misandrist laws to control your straight men and to break every family and to double their loans! You want to become independent then:
1- Never get a bank loan.
2- Enforce 0% interest rates in banks.
3- Replace the paper money with gold money.
4- Don’t get involved (both you and America) in wars that are engineered to get your governments in more debt, thus more taxes that serves those lazy bloodsuckers.
5- Deport thopse bloodsuckers.

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In USA, The fed reserve is a private bank which LOANS every penny of money in the US at interest. The money you pay in taxes only covers the interest of the loan. The principle is not ever touched. The US does not have it’s own money. Every dollar is borrowed and it is not back by gold or anything else. JFK wanted the US to go back to printing its own money. Lincoln did too.

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There are many reasons why homelessness is a rampant problem in Vancouver. Why don’t we begin be looking at the outrageous prices of living costs. Even those with a roof over the heads are barely making ends meet because of such expenses. Yet minimum wage is only eight dollars an hour. First Call: BC Child and Youth Coalition study reports that “a person working 49 hours a week for 52 weeks would have to earn $9.60/hour to reach the poverty line for a single person living in Vancouver”.
These are statistics from a few years back but I cannot imagine much has changed. What really bothers me is that everyone is more concerned that all this poverty will look bad for Canada when the Olympics come around. Rather then being concerned with the poverty itself it seems some are more concerned with how it will look to the rest of the world. We are now pumping so much money into building huge stadiums and other developments that are only to be used for the Olympics. That money could all be redirected to where it should be going to stop Canada’s poverty problem. I heard of some program to build more affordable housing downtown and now all development has stopped. Why? Let us not blame these unfortunate individuals who are suffering even if they are drug addicts (not all of them are by the way). Those who are addicts need medical help. Everyone deserves equal support.

Love Cherri

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I met a couple of girls from Czech, a guy from Mexico and Kenya, all here working temporarily. They have jobs! nice clothes, cell phones, place to stay etc. Not to mention English is not their native language, no relatives to help them here, everything new like a baby just learning how to walk the first time. It must be tough.
Now all these homelessness nonsense. Miami, Key West and most of those southern US cities who’s a lot warmer than Vancouver never have as many homeless people on their streets. I hear a lot of people blaming welfare, expensive housing, mental illness, etc etc. (How about the Czech, Mexican and Kenyan who dont have a house here??)
How about blaming our politicians that have allowed these drugs into our cities?? If you get yourself hook by Meth or Coke and if you aint rich or your momma don’t have that much money, you better have warm blanket because your next job will be begging in the street with no address. Drugs is the core of the problem! Im sure there are just as many wacko’s and sick or elderly in Alabama but I dont see them begging in massive numbers! I have been to the Ghettoest Ghetto in NY and Detroit, Chicago and Phyllie but Hasting was something else the first time I see it. It reminds me of that Mad Max movie as if it was the end of the world! My solution on all this is that give them jobs to the able body, provide free housing to mentally ill and elderly. And anybody who gets caught after that sleeping or begging on the street 3x will then be sent to a Government housing facility 1000 Kilometer away from Vancouver to get sober-up. SIMPLE!

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It’s now 5 years later since the first posting of this subject and not much has been changed.
I have traveled quite a lot around the world, especially in Europe, and I have never seen so many people living on the streets as in Vancouver. When I meet people from Europe visiting Vancouver, the first thing they mention is how shocking it is to see so many people living in the back alleys. Watching people suffering on the street, in your own town, is unethical and this problem needs to be solved immediately. What can we do in my opinion ?
1. Closing the mental institutes like Riverview is absolutely wrong. Many people living on the streets have mental illnesses like schizophrenia and can’t take care of themselves or make decisions. They should have a place where they can go for treatment, and not return back until they are able to live independently. As one of the world’s richest countries, the government of Canada should make sure to provide enough money and support for these people.
2. Because we are living in a very independent society where family control doesn’t seem to play a very important role, the government should be responsible of taking care of the poor and ill ( isn’t that something our parents learned from Bible school ? ).
A law that came in place about “homeless people have the human right not to get forced in treatment” should immediately be changed. People who are mental ill can’t decide if they want treatment, and where to go. The government should obligate mental ill people in treatment until they can live independent. And living on the streets should simply not be allowed.
3. There should be more money for resources, especially local, including assisting people re-integrating in society.
4. The same is for drug and alcohol addicts. These people should be obligated in treatment and not be allowed to live on the street.
How will the government and society profit from this ? There will be clean streets during Olympics. They can show international press that they do care about the lives of their citizens. Many people living on the streets have great potential in society, there are even doctors and lawyers who got depressed, started drinking and ended up on the streets.
And what about the patients ? They get the chance to recover and return in society. And at least getting some respect and humanity.
I welcome everybody’s feedback to the solution of this problem. My email is onomimono@hotmail.com.

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