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How to Survive a Zombie Attack

On Kuro5hin, there’s an amusing tongue-in-cheek essay describing the optimal way to survive a zombie attack. It mostly involves holing up in a mall:

If you took a WalMart like I told you, you don’t need to worry too much about lighting. The skylights do a fair job of illumination during the day, and battery powered flashlights will be OK at night time. But if you’re brave, you can venture outside to get fuel from filling station. And if you’re lucky, you’ll find a tanker truck to drive back to home base. Personally, I’d rather live in the dark. It might be a good idea to keep a CB radio in your car for just this type of event, and try to get a trucker to bring the tanker to your fort when Z-Day arrives.

Near the end of the essay, the author addresses the difficult problem of how long a zombie ‘lives’. This depends on the movie. In 28 Days Later, for example, the zombification is some kind of blood disease. Humans are driven mad, but they still require sustenance. As such, it’s a relatively short-term zombie infestation. In Dawn of the Dead and other zombie films, the creatures are actually reanimated corpses, suggesting that there’s no time line on their shambling existence.

In either case, I think the recommended course of action is to forge a sustainable lifestyle on a previously uninhabited island (or to clear an island of zombies). I’ve never seen a zombie swim or operate a power boat. Regardless of their lifespan, you can live out your remaining years free of fear.

185 Responses to “How to Survive a Zombie Attack”

  1. donna

    I was commenting to my roommate the other day, that if I woke up one morning and the rest of the world had suddenly vanished, I could survive pretty well. I mean, it’d be awfully cold sometimes but I’m sure I can find some sweaters, and I’m sure I’d get real sick of canned food, but I’m pretty sure that just in the Super Valu up the street alone, there’s enough non-perishable food to get me through the next few decades. If not, there’s always a few safeways within a few blocks from here as well. The upside being, I’d never have to learn to hunt. Or cook properly, for that matter.

    I’d really miss microwaves, though. But camping-style cooking is do-able.

    I would, on the other hand, be very sad when I ran out of gas and couldn’t putter around on my bike anymore. I wonder, if the rest of the world went away, how long electricity would last to pump gas? Hmm. Maybe I’d get some jerry cans.

    jack Reply:

    instead of fighting over different plans put all of your ideas together to make one big plan so you are ready and will have more chance of surviving.

  2. Rog

    Noooooooooooooo. The whole island ideal ALWAYS ends up being the trap at the end of zombie movies!

    Zombies seem to love remote islands, almost as much as they love malls.

    max Reply:

    movie addict!

  3. Rob

    This was my favourite bit:

    “Helmets are a good idea too, but anything other than motorcycle helmets would look dorky, and I’d rather be a zombie than a dork with a pail on my head.”

  4. Travis

    Zombies that don’t need air can walk across the ocean floor of a narrow channel to find you. Remoteness is the key to island survival.

    As for the earlier commenter who would be happy eating twinkies and pasta for 20 years — come on, man, even if you’re not going to reinvent agriculture, at least grow some carrots and potatoes.

    TTFN

  5. Sean

    Remote islands are a good idea, but it has to be COMPETELY uninhabited. Because like in resident evil, animals can be infected to!

    If zombies can die from hunger, there’s no doubt they’ll start attacking each other and completely forget about you, making a zombie infestation last about 2 weeks.

    The ideal weapon for zombie survival is definately a shotgun. Why? Because they hardly require aim and are good for begginers. As you start getting more adept with arms, I recommend a fast reloading pistol of some sort. One little shot to the brain is all it takes. Close range weapons are only good as a last resort, you want to stay as far away as possible and keep the push on them so something that can reload fast and does’nt reload bullets will guarentee you zombie ownage

    max Reply:

    the virus can only function in the human body! it will kill any host apart from a human! & they dont starve, either. they are reanimated corpses so they do not need food, they just want it. so sitting tight for a couple months will not help!

    chris stanley Reply:

    yes man resident evil is the best movie/game to go by during a zombie outbrake but just dont get to cocky and try to act like leon or chris and u will end
    up fine

  6. Paul

    The virus, Solanum, can only infect humans, and not animals. Also, zombies can’t swim or walk on the ocean floor. A remote island is the IDEAL place to stay during an apocalypse, as long as you clear out the island if theres a lone zombie or two. Also, guns are noisy and attract more, and if you run out of ammo or have to reload while you’re surrounded, make sure you have a good blunt weapon or an extremely sharp trench knife or other sort of melee weapon. But distance is good, so try to have a sort of long range spear of some sort. Zombies can live without some of their brain or head trauma, so if you want to kill them with a gun, try to use a heavy caliber pistol or something that will enter with a small hole and leave a bigger one out the back, or blow its head clean off. And anyways, if an apocalypse is going on, ammo can be hard to find. Even if you’re not a gold thumb, you can try to grow some all purpose vegtables or other sorts of food. Hell, if you bring some livestock (I doub’t you will unless you’re a farmer) you can breed more and it would be less hard for you if you’re not a vegan. You should also have some chicks just in case its a complete apocalypse and you have to re-breed mankind. If you are one, find a man that can watch your back. Bikes, tight clothing, short hair, running shoes, a blunt weapon, and some snacks is enough to get you to the next town to join the Minuteman Militia. Then you could arrange a barricade at the local jail and you would be set. (A jail has steep, tough walls, barred windows, an armory, a yard where you can cultivate plants, and only one or two entrances, the ideal place to defend from zombies. Remember this post and you could live a lifetime zombie-killing instead of human-eating.

    Gabe Reply:

    dude you totally read and plagarised this one book i saw in barnes and noble. like… zombie survival guide or something. oh wow, you came up with a name for the zombie virus? i don’t think so. asshole.

  7. tyler

    the best way to kill a zombie is with a flamethrower. the body can’t be reanimated when there is nothing left

    max Reply:

    bullshit. flames are only good for disposal. flames will also turn on you! flamethrowers are very hard to find, the fuel being harder to find than the flame thrower itself. & fire dosent kill them right away. what could be worse than throwing a molotov at a zombie to find that zombie still coming at you, burning down your fortifications.

    Gabe Reply:

    Dude WHERE THE FUCK are you going to find a flamethrower?

    chris stanley Reply:

    a water gun with gas in it super glue a lighter to the end and u got a flamethrower also a lighter and hairspray/body spray etc. can will make a good one 2

    Smithy Reply:

    Dude if u use a flamethrower it won’t kill it straight away so you just made a really pissed off giant ball of fire that will chase you until it dies and if you do it to multipul zombies you will be what I call a goner OWND!!!!

  8. Drew

    I always thought hiding on an island was a good idea. First of all, it should be small enough so that you can do a quick survey of the land to see if there happens to be any zombies infesting the area. Secondly, if zombies were able to walk across the ocean floor, hopefully the tide and sea life take apart their rotting corpses before they reached the island. Thirdly, depending on how long it takes for complete global zombification AND considering that the zombies are naturally decomposing; after a few years you should be able leave your island and return home safely.

  9. Ryan

    If you live in the midwest, and cannot make an island, an extremely secluded area is the best bet. Just hunker down in an old school gym. (they are always brick w/no windows). I do not like the jail idea as listed above, because you are going into a more poulated zone, ie more zombies

  10. Ryan

    If you live in the midwest, and cannot make an island, an extremely secluded area is the best bet. Just hunker down in an old school gym. (they are always brick w/no windows). I do not like the jail idea as listed above, because you are going into a more poulated zone, ie more zombies

    max Reply:

    then go to the mountains. tundra is especcially good.

    Gabe Reply:

    That, and do you really wanna risk running into a prison inmate who can and will take your anal virginity? I mean, come on. It’s the zombie apocolypse. Spare yourself. The last thing you want to write in your journal for the day is “Day 257 of Zombie apocolypse: Had to kill mom today, she got bit. dad too. *tear stain* oh, and bubba assraped me. wtf.”

    Smithy Reply:

    You know the only reason your mom is a zombie is because you raped her on top of the prison walls then pushed her off so she woulndnt tell ur dad who you did the same to then you forced bubba at gun point to do ur ass then you did it to him u sicko

  11. Different Ryan

    the jail idea is one of the safest places as it has multiple fall back points. Make sure that the prison is a pre 1950’s build with the huge stone walls, and not the steel mesh prisons of todays standard. dont you think a school will be quite a well populated area too? most schools are in big cities or in the middle of suburbs and thus the chances of a large population nearby is great. my preferred weapons will be a sharpened trench knife as melee and a carbine such as the m1 carbine or the m1a1 (paratrooper) carbine which would be better for indoor fighting, and still accurate at medium distances. the jail idea provides a complete living environment will all that a small group would need in complete isolation, and there is a good chance that you could live out an infestation for a good number of years.

  12. alicia

    well,i never imagined there were more people planning against a zombie attack i thought i was all alone my husband of course thinks im crazy.on the comment made above about if you are a girl you need to find a man to save you.ha.you have got to be kidding ill be kicking some zombie ass and saving the men along the way.as far as im concerned common sense plays a big role in survival and ive got alot of it.its of course good to have an arsenol.i think definately a sniper gun is imperative so that when you finally do get set up somewhere you can start killing off anything that comes past your barricade.i like the desolate location thing thats why id head for the mountains that are near less people less zombies i mean why would the zombs come where theres nothin to eat.some advice to people with hope if your friend is bitten guess what it is highly unlikely youll get an antidote dont try and keep them locked up somwhere eventually they will come after you.like on day of the dead where the mad doc tries to make them smart they may be smart but the need to feed will be there.

    Gabe Reply:

    Oh please bitch without a man you’d be fucked. Probably in more ways than one.

    Smithy Reply:

    The only reason you save the men is because you want to use a strapon to rape them

  13. michael

    ok … so island …. deff a bad idea, zombies CAN walk under water or will float there proven on Dawn of tha dead (new one ) and on Day of the dead (tha new one)…. Jail is deff a bad idea its perfect wit tha windows and stuff but unless its out west in tha middle of nowhere cuzin tha city zombies will be there by tha 10000’s and in a jail there is no seeds for food…wut are you gunna do then?? get someone to volunteer to jump out a window and
    get to 7/11 for some hotdogs?? NOOOOO!
    in a jail you are actually tha one imprisoned

    i know taht people say get to a secluded area alone….. F that … out in tha mountains with nothing but yourself to keep entertained is boring…. i myself see that as no way to live and as just chillin till tha whole world is a Zombie-fest and then they start walking out to the mountains n e ways “there are worse things than death people… and one of those things is sitting here WAITING to die” cop guy from DOTD…. exactly … cept in tha mountains….

    and for killin off your friends when they are bit , i know you got to but dont freak out and kill em within tha fist 4 seconds… first of all if they got bit then you are prolly in tha middle of a Zombie attack and its getting pretty bad, so hand him a gun with minimal ammo and say keep shooting till your dead… ( little ammo so he will run out before he dies and wont be able to shoot you liek BUB on tha old day of the dead) ( also its ok to kill em in tha first 4 seconds if we are dealing with tha RAGE virus like on 28 days later, where you only have between 5-8 seconds before they are ready to eat you…)

    i consider myself as more tha rambo style .. get me a bus( cars windows and stuff can be broken by hitting a zombie then your in trouble… and bikes… DUH no walls!!!) buses run over anything … and are harder to get into plus more storage..

    yall can find me at walmart… seeds, ammo , bows and arrows for alternate means, and fo sho tha windows WILL be cemented over, and then as long as tha electricity is there you got games then board games … they also got oil ,, which you can pour on tha zombies outside and burn em .. ” cant reanimate as long as theres nothing left..” plus tha sides are brick or concrete so tha building WONT catch on fire . and cement to wall stuff

    max Reply:

    not in water deeper than 12 feet!

    max Reply:

    retard! your using movies for your point. you probably didnt know, but, movies aint real! i’ll say that again…MOVIES AINT REAL!!! zombies arnt caused by some mutant flu, they are reanimated corpses. they do not pump blood, &therefore dont have the strength &/or energy to do such physical hazards like running, jumping, climbing,etc. your right they are light weight enough to float & can go under water, but not oceans or seas! besides if they do, you can pickem off with a rifle.(remember, head dead!)

    Gabe Reply:

    um, max? in case you haven’t noticed, zombies aren’t real either.

    max Reply:

    than stop criticizing people! why would u care!?

    Gabe Reply:

    oh, and, if you’re bored, plant a little pot seed. then you shall never be bored. um… but make sure you have a lot of food. you’ll need it.

  14. michael

    sorry i meant to say “zombies CAN walk under water or will float there proven on Dawn of tha dead (new one ) and on LAND of the dead (tha new one)…. Jail “

  15. Becky

    I recently met a women who was also obsessed with zombies and , having gone through all the American zombie movies, was now into watching international Zombie movies… What I learned was while “American ” zombies gravitate toward Malls, zombies of different regions of the world and different cultural backgrounds do not automatically congregate at The Gap…

    I feel that Americans are not doing enough to prepare for international Zombies issues. What if Cuban Zombies swim to key west and and expect us to make cigars? What if Irish zombies want me to river dance? Zulu Zombies, Italian Zombies? And even within our own country, what if a daycare is infected just before nap time….tired, cranky baby zombies????

    A friend sent me a photo of a Zombie fighting with a shark…Finally we can see what would happen if Sea World, the lost city of Atlantis, or the French are infected! Damn you Jacques Cousteau!

  16. Bill

    For those who love pondering things zombie, may I recommend “World War Z”. Well written, gripping, detailed and consistent – the genesis and aftermath of zombie holocaust and how humanity fights its way back. Zombies on the ocean floor (some radioactive!), special nato antizombie bullets. Lots of fun. Don’t read at night.

  17. Cris

    Well i dont see any of these ideas working in a World War Z type outbreak. This is mainly because this type of outbreak might take months maybe even years to reach critical mass. This means that most of the wallmarts or other supercenters will be looted as thousands of refugees with all ur same ideas run for saftey. Most will go to the mountains and other isolated places making them less isolated and bringing zombies! I have no ideas tho?

    max Reply:

    thats why you dont go to a walmart! the concrete will mess up the soil, making it next to impossible to grow anything there even with fertilliser & even if you do dig a hole!(if you pla on farming for longterm, a very good idea, you also need fertiliser. & the looting will have damaged the walls(witch are not concrete nor metal.) & there will be next to no canned goods there as it will have been looted or destroyed.

  18. _Tyro

    If Zombies are re-animated corpses, wouldn’t you need to hole up for a while and wait for the Zombies to start decomposing in the nice warm outside air?

    As for a nice place to wait out the infestation, a fully stocked cruise ship with out the passengers would be perfect.

    max Reply:

    it still will take up to like 5 years! as if you can stock that much food! especially for your “100 people strong” groups. then again, providing you have a renewable generator (solar, wind, dynamo,etc.) for cooking, & your off shore enough, you can fish. people can, & do live entirely off the riches of the ocean.(do not drink the water without curing &/or purifying it, though.)

  19. joemar

    well all the ideas above are good but you can be in a jail the walt mart or the mountains but if you dont have the right gear (guns , ammo, etc) u are done for good. and dont forget to make some friends its better than being along

  20. SeanK

    you all know those ideas suck if zombification ever occures well all be dead when we sleep they get us before we know anything…and if you survive the night you’ll die from disease because if the people who were once people(future zombies)died from diseases they’ll be airborne and bam the best chance of survival is not surviving…use your high calibur pistols and shoot your yourself in the head…and on an island there are diseaseis from animals and not to mention the fact that a zombies is smart enough to stumble around and stow away in your boat so if zombification happens your screwed because i know the ultiment secrets to living in a zombie apocalyps

    max Reply:

    like aids, it cant survive outside the human body!

    max Reply:

    your just some dick. it isnt airborne! it relies on reanimated cells, witch cannot survive outside the human body.

    max Reply:

    p.s. what are you gonna do? go to some walmart & brick up the windows? i dont think so.

    Gabe Reply:

    You know, i think he’s right. just fucking kill yourself.

    max Reply:

    ill kill u if u dont stop!

    p.s. may as well try.

  21. SeanK

    oh and mr rambo…your idea sucks too…what happens when you run out of ammo and supplies big guy

  22. poisonormints

    The best place to go is some where cold cause the zombies will just freeze up, but if your no near a natural freezer then theres always the option of building a 10 ft wall around your house right now just to b prepaired. and fitting sum 50 .cal machine gun at the top with enough ammo to fight of a small army.

  23. Jonothen

    guys get real, if there was an actual zombie attack and people were other peoples flesh in massive amounts, the government would fuck all. man do you honestly think the government is going to let a bunch of fucking monsters roam the streets and shit in their country. fuck no the military is gonna be down there with f-16’s, trained military personnel, tanks, helicopters, smart bombs, you name is man. and theres no way millions of people are actually going to get infected because the only explanation for re-animation is some kind of biological experimentation and the only people who can afford to research these things is the government, and if there was any sort of hint that the virus would potentially break out it would be shut down and the streets would be patrolled everything would be under martial law. and solanum isn’t a virus its a fucking plant douches, search solanum on wikipedia or Google. and so ends me owning you with facts. have a nice day – jonothan

    max Reply:

    fuck you. smart bombs lock on to electrical sources. i do not believe zombies are electrical. i am not saying zombies are caused via supernatural means, but the virus has been found in rats & chimps. besides, the army will go for the torso.(witch is a waste of ammo.) & napalm & frags will be useless as fire does not kill right away so the zombie will stumble into a soldier & he will burn to death before reanimating. & theres a 4% chance that a tiny piece of shrapnel will pierce a human skull.
    p.s. solanum aint the virus.

    max Reply:

    p.p.s. with napalm, its more likley to kill the infantry. they bomb the zombies, who are now on fire, who go into the infantry, who are shooting their chests & throwing frags. what could be worst? b.t.w. they dont starve to death. reanimation causes all nerve & body functions to cease, so the only way they die apart from head damage is rotting away over a few years.

    King Reply:

    Are you stupid or just plain ignorant?
    Anyone who is between 10 and 70 knows what a zombie is and what one looks like. Only the young, old, sick, obese and the unlucky will be ‘contaminated’ via a zombie bite. That still adds up to a lot of zombies, but when you get the army involved, Marines, Air Force, shit even the cops, they’ll know EXACTLY what to do…. shut the fuckers in the head.

    Any military trained personnel can hit a target in the head. Don’t forget those huge tanks, helicopters, jet fighters, APC’s that could eradicate a huge swarm of zombies without breaking a sweat. Smart bombs? Who is stupid enough to use a smart bomb on a group of zombies? Chuck a grenade down from a chopper and watch them gib.

    Infection via bites or scrabs would never spread fast enough for it to become uncontainable or uncontrollable. Depending on whether or not zombies CAN run or not changes things greatly, but not to such an extent it can’t be handled. Civi’s will suffer more but all military will always have the advantage.

    People seem to assume that 99% of the Earths population will turn to zombies overnight. As awesome as that would be, it wouldn’t happen, ever, unless it was a radical airborne virus with no cure, which is even more unlikely.

    If zombies where to happen, I’d personally make my way to my local police barracks which is essentially a huge fortress (former Army barracks), 5mins walking distance away, where I’d stay for 3 or 4 weeks until the news tells us it’s safe to come out, all the armies in the world got rid of the soft squishy zombies, which where all old fat people with no teeth.

    Obviously though not everyone lives near a fortress like I do, but it only takes half a brain to outsmart a dead one.

  24. Tim.z

    ROFL. PWNAGE.
    Id still hole up in wallmart though. Chips!

    max Reply:

    read my thing about how bad walmarts are,(added after this.) & youll think again!

  25. Melissa

    How about going to Angel Falls It’s the world’s highest free-falling, freshwater waterfall at 979 m (3,212 ft), with an uninterrupted drop of 807 m (2,648 ft). It is located in the Canaima National Park, in the Gran Sabana region of Bolivar State, Venezuela and no one realy lives there! so it’d be safe to go all the way up there since there’s fruit fish freshwater and Zombies can’t climb!

  26. Chuck

    I’ve been giving this some thought. If i were to survive the night (or whenever they decide to attack) without getting eatin alive, i would hop in my truck and find the nearest gunstore go in grab all high powered rifles and shotguns alot of ammo and shoot my way out. i would already have my closest friends with me as extra guns and we would head for the swamp. Im from Louisiana and i dont care how good a zombie can walk underwater (i believe they can’t btw, too hard to navigate)they aint walking through that droopy ass swamp mud. we would live in a fishing camp right on the water and live off the bayou ie; shrimp,crabs,crawfish,fish,etc.. we could live there forever without worry that a zombie will “walk” to us haha i rule.

    max Reply:

    retard! zombies use their senses equally! they don’t need vision! humans rely more than than 50% on vision. zombies, rely equally. if the water was muddy, how the hell could fish live in it?! & zombies are light enough to float. & once they get get on your boat your sol. & even if they cant get on your boat, they can certainly tip it over. (than your really sol!) & wooden buildings offer next to no protection. your walking in a hut to get your fishing gear, to find like 50 zombies banging on the door. & as if a truck can go through a swamp.(even suvs are bad. most are economy designs with normal sedan wheels. & just because a car is big, dosent men its more protective. trucks & suvs are very weak. chances are after knocking a few cards over, the bumper will fall of! & you dont want to be driving a car with out a bumper.

  27. Johhny

    hahahah good ideas people except for you sean k you are just a pansy who would die any way sure the government would be the ones that started it but hey you can have every safty protocal followed and it still wont be enough one drip of blood some where and you just feel a tad sick then you ogo home take a nap wake up worse and go to the clinic or hospital or stay home and you die then come back and bite some one once that happends you infect them and you go to your neighbors house they will most likely call the cops because people are banging on their door in the night or day or what ever cops are supposed to shoot only if danger is present they will be like oh shit freeze and all that stuff then you know they will shoot in the lag or something to incapitat the suspect and it wont work so the keep shooting and bam zombie keeps coming and bites the cop and the cop gets out of there and gos to get checked annd dies there and infects people yeah thats how i think it will start.

  28. jonothen

    fuckin noobs, if the shit did hit the fan (which it wouldn’t due to my previous explanation) you dont fucking go to the gun store, thats where everyone will be going no doubt, prepare yourself ahead of time. stock up on concealable weapons (walter p22) bring lots of ammunition, have a safe house always prepared far away from general civilization, make sure you have a vehicle (preferably a truck) with lots of water, food, ammunition, and a radio and tv to keep yourself up to date.

    If you plan on staying in you house always…
    1. make sure when you get wind of an attack, fill up all your baths, sinks, glasses, ect. with water. always have canned food and supplies to last for a very long time, these will be necessities if you intend on surviving a full siege.
    2. always cover all your windows with blankets, boards, whatever you can find, stock up on generators because power will most likely shut down after a short while.
    3. keep all sounds to a minimum, you don’t to draw any unnecessary attention to your fortress.
    4. fortify shit, don’t be a fucking noob and just lock your doors, board them up and check if they’ve moved any at all every day with a ruler or whatever you noobs use.
    5. jonothan will always roam this conversation, if anyone needs help just say the word “don’t be a noob ask jonothan – your question” and it will be answered in due time. and so ends me owning you with facts
    love, jonothan.

  29. Chuck

    So johny boy here is the so called expert on zombie invasions. all you did was list shit that ppl do when they prepare for a hurricane. besides the being silent,SAME EXACT SHIT! everyone should now go to hurricane katrina.com and get tips on how to srvive a zombie attack, thx. and besides you had no other thing on my plan but the gunstore which i now own a number of weapons.And do you really think the gov. could stop thousands of zombies running everywhere killing and multiplying by the min? no. the first responders would be the ones who later on kill the main forces and help with the addition of new zombies. Man i love ruling so damn much.

    max Reply:

    dick head. they dont run! their hearts dont function, & since they dont pump blood, they will not have the strength &/or energy to run, jump, climb, etc. & you dont rule, you cant even survive short term! dick.

  30. joemar

    zombies well its time to go rambo jajajaja but be smart dont be the idiot that gets himself killed

  31. joemar

    and one more thing if u get kill by a slow zombi u are and idiot please don t be the one dummy

    max Reply:

    your the dummy! read my response to chuck! they dont sleep! so while your taking a snooze, they are banging on your fort! & they’re strength is exceptional! & suvs suck! theyre big, but not stong! & most suvs these days are economical ones with normal wheels. so they will break down! & the windows are even weaker! so chances are after knocking over a couple zombies, then then the bumper will falloff!(you do not want to drive a car wihout a bumper!), than all your windows are smashed up by around 50 zombies surrounding you.

    King Reply:

    Way to go contradicting yourself about a zombies strength. A zombie is compiled of dead, rotting flesh. You could lob a pineapple at it and half it’s face will rip off lol.
    It would take a large amount of zombies to say, topple an average sized car… Imagine you are in a large pickup or something that has large amounts of torque, you could plow through zombies enough to get you through the other side. Unless the horde is thousands upon thousands, then that would just be idiotic to try.

  32. Zack63

    the first place id go is get a boat a nice one and head on over to alcatraz theres plenty of fortifications and the currents around it are way to strong for the zombies to walk through oh and by the way zombies can’t swim at all they don’t have to proper moter skills to swim right the army would try to fight them but think about it there are alot of troops but they can’t take on the rest of the zombified country check page 92-104 in World War Z it will elaborate

  33. Zack63

    also closed quarters is very dangerous cause if your running from zombies your eventually gonna either get out or get caught in a corner so a large open space like in the mid-west like someone was saying would probobly be the best place to stay if it’s just slow-zombies and sean-k ill be glad when your a zombie so i can blow your head off with a nice high calibur pistol

    this is Zack63 out

  34. journeymen14

    lol good ideas i agree with zack on the sean k thing but i would prepare by getting a house boat and just live on there with some water purification stuff and a few nice fishing poles and a shotgun when i happen to fish up a floater

    ill be in the key’s
    Journymen14

  35. journeymen14

    oh don’t ever sick your dog on the zombies cause if a huge jap bear won’t do it then your golden retreiver won’t either

  36. Chuck

    Just send in the marines they’re more brutal than zombies plus they carry big guns hahaha. small squad based attacks is what will clean out the streets and eventually kill them off.

  37. Zack63

    but what happens when the squads run out of ammo like i said before the whole armed forces would have alot of trouble killing 250 million+ zombies it’s just not gonna work

  38. Chuck

    yea thats true but they would make a damn good defense force. If you can’t beat them you have to adapt to live “with” them. Picture about 25 to 30 armed marines with some civilians. Guarding a fortified wal-mart or groccery store or something. If they don’t shoot unless they absolutly have to then they will have ammo saved, relying on the protective wall they built for proctection nstead of a wall of bullets. If they’re not many zombies attracted the that area you could send out patrols for med supplies and food or other survivors. constantly resupplying every so often and keeping just enough food so to not ration any and you’re set.eventually you can clear out more builings and bigger areas to maybe have a fortified town or village with fallback points and kill zones. It’s an interesting concept.

    max Reply:

    & dont forget looters. in a high level outbreak, bandits with firearms will not hesitate to attack marines.(like inserants.) they will probably be a bigger problem when everyone is organised & fortified. & walmarts have no strategical advantages unlike an off-shore building.(like an oil rig.) its probably gonna go from shaun of the dead to doomsday & mad max.(but not all that punk shit.) & the raiders will probably get there first, so the walmart will be sucked clean of food, seeds, tools, weapons, & all the usefull stuf. same applies with costcos, malls, grocery stores, supermarkets, & every store downtown.

    max Reply:

    soz, ment insergants.

    King Reply:

    Probably the smartest thing you’ve said. Armed raiders and looters would prove a very big problem for everyone, but someone carrying a load of food, water etc or even a fucking TV (I wouldn’t be surprised in this day and age) they are gonna get slowed down and either be; A) Eaten by zombies or B) Shot by soldiers/other looters.

    Stores and other conveniences will be stripped clean by people, while others will be rushing to get to safe havens (army bases etc). An army base would have a large barricade and perimeter to prevent those pesky zombies getting by while civi’s would be waved through. Hopefully the soldiers can tell the difference between a zombie and a living person unlike the fools at Baxtors in Dawn of the Dead.

    Everyone would be checked for bites etc, you got a bite? You can go back to where you came from.

  39. Zack63

    but remember that zombies will go toward any loud noise and they can hear for about 5-6 miles so it would be really hard to clear out an area that keeps filling up with zombies

  40. Chuck

    yea i know but u take little by little and reinforce it all as you go along. yea more zombies will come but will how many depends on where ur at i mean if find a ducked off little town in the countryside youll get alot less zombies than say downtown new orleans.

  41. Zack63

    i still say my alcatraz idea is just about fool proof

    King Reply:

    While a good plan, food and water would run out quickly unless rationed very well. You would have to hope you have a good boat to travel to and from the island to get supplies etc, which then you’d need companions with guns and reasonable amount of ammo.

    And before anyone says ‘BUT TEHY CAN WAKL UUNDER WATERS!’… so what if they can? They’d get thrashed about by the wind and waves and even if they did float to the island they’d be splattered across the jagged rocks.

  42. Bfferris

    If there ws a zombie attack most of the people that are sl aive will be taking food and wepons from the malls, aking it harder to find wepons and food. The Best way is to find a old military bunker that you can store things like food, transportation, wepons,ammo, and people tohelp defend the bunker if need be. the chaces of zombies geting in to the bunker with the door closed are slim to none.

  43. Chuck

    yea thats a good idea but i dont know of any “old” military bunkers anywhere near my hometown. besides im in the marines and most of these bases dont have underground reinforced facilities like one would think. maybe the armory but who the hell wants to live in an armory? not I my friend.

  44. Jonothan

    Dude, I would assume that most of you live in the states, you guys watch to many movies. The military isn’t going to “run out of ammo” Do you know how much money the American government spends on ammunition, weapons, training people, advanced warfare, every year. you actually think they’re going to “run out of ammo” Man.Think about this. there are more bullets then there are people in this world, if they send in 600 trained marines into an area that has that has say 3000 zombies? then you give every marine 100 bullets (which is more then enough, I am A part of Special Operations) and one bullet to the head can take out of zombie so you say, they will have more then enough bullets to cleanse an entire area and then some.

    max Reply:

    well, they will keep on making the mistake of using frags, & tgrying to take them out from the head. & napalm takes like forever to burn the brain, so while the zombies aire infecting m,arines, they are also setting the defences & reinforcements on fire.( this is what happened in 28 weeks later.)

    King Reply:

    Jonathan here knows what the score is.
    Max, he didn’t say anything about using frags or napalm, that would be a waste. Get a few tanks and choppers and the marines with pinpoint accuracy could wipe out large swarm in no time safely.

    Oh and 28 days/weeks later didn’t have zombies in it, they were infected with the RAGE virus. Technically, those who became infected didn’t die, they just lost all human instincts and rationality, they became mindless savages and attacked anything that moved. They die out from hunger in a matter of weeks and can’t swim or walk under water.

    Oh and those marines in 28 Weeks Later fucked up big time and they let someone who was infected back into the safe zone, then they fucked up again by flying to France so the infection could spread over Europe.

  45. Jonothan

    The people that work in the military aren’t pussies you know, they’re trained to deal with situations like this, If you tell them to shoot someone in the head, you’re getting shot right between the fucking eyes, its not any harder to shoot a zombie in the head then it is a normal person, they’re slower moving, more fuckin stupid, people who can be killed from a distance because they don’t know how to use weapons.
    Now for some tips.

    If you plan on leaving home…
    1. carry a mellee weapon like a samurai sword, they’re very sharp and can cut through almost anything, making it extremely easy to decapitate a zombies head, doesn’t run out of ammo.
    2.concealable weapons like pistols are great because they’re small and not very heavy and same goes for their ammo, also they’re quick to reload. revolvers i don’t recommend as much because they may be small, but they don’t hold as many rounds and they take to long to reload, however there’s no jamming with revolvers, your choice people.
    3. Sonic grenades are great if you have a good arm, if you’re trying to cause a distraction, EG: you’re trying to reach the mall to restock on supplies but there’s a group of zombies surrounding it, you’re out of ammunition and all you have is your sonic grenade, throw the sonic grenade a ways away from where the zombies are, this should buy you all the time you need, the grenade will let out extremely loud sounds, as you may already know zombies have excellent hearing so as soon as you throw the grenade they’ll be on their way to the spot, this can and will buy you enough time to get you supplies you need and high tail it out of there before your little friends realize whats happened.
    4. you may think you’re going to go rambo on the zombies, if you do, you’re a fucking retard. even if you have a bunch of guns, you’re not the american military and YOU will run out of ammo eventually depending on the situation, stay with people you trust, people you know aren’t infected and keep your distance from infecteds unless you’re absolutely desperate.
    5. last but not least Zack63 I don’t have anything against you personally but when you say you’ll be facing 250 million+ zombies you’re just ignorant, the population of the entire united states is 300 Million, and the population of canada is 30 million, so you’re telling me that more then half of america is going to flock to one spot and you’re going to have to fight them all? that’s just stupid, that being said if a situation like that were to occur, that area were be Bombed, that land would cease to exist. it would be bombed, nuked, Haz-Mat would be sent in to deal with anything else and that area would be cut off for atleast 20 years due to all the radiation that would’ve been caused from all the melt downs from factories and plants the nuclear bomb would’ve caused. Chuck, The pointers i gave about boarding up your house for a siege, the ones that you said were the same for hurricane defence, the truth is, thats all you need really, hurricane defence is more then enough to to protect yourself from a couple people banging on your door.
    Love, Jonothan.

  46. Jonothan

    Hey Chuck, are zombies H-Bomb proof? you don’t rule, you’re just a moron who doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about, stop watching movies and get real man. if we’re 10, zombies are 5, do you get what I’m saying? they’re worse then us, there’s no reason for us to even be afraid of them, if i was at a bar and some normal guy tried to bite me, i’d kick the fuck out of him, now analyze this. if you take that guy whos ass i just kicked, make him stupid and sloppy and weak and slow. what do you have? you have a fuckin thing that doesn’t deserve the light of day, oooh what’s so scary about that?
    Love, Jonothan.

    max Reply:

    its people like you who try to go badass on them & just end up being torn to peices, or kidnapped by bandits.

  47. Zack63

    fine I over blew the idea i’m just saying let’s say there’s a squad that is cut off from supplies and they are running low on ammo if their shooting at the zombies (if their not there just retarded) however much the sound of a gunshot travels add another 6-7 miles and any zombies in that givien area will be going towards that gun so if your somewhere in a high populated area there’s gonna be a lot of Z’s coming your way the 250 mill was just a worst case senerio

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