How FriendFeed Splits the Conversation

March 14th, 2008, 4 Comments »

FriendFeed ServicesI’ve been hearing plenty of noise among the Alpha Geeks this week about the sudden emergence of FriendFeed. It’s basically a way to aggregate all of your sundry feeds in one megafeed of stuff. I’ve noticed a flurry of new followers of my FriendFeed this week.

I first tried FriendFeed and wrote about it back in October, and here’s what I said:

Holy crap. Who in their right mind would want to see all of that in one place? It’s my stuff, and I don’t even want to see it.

I feel the same way today. I don’t need more stuff, I need less. I went on to remark on the one way I might make use of FriendFeed:

If FriendFeed or somebody else lays some clever filtering on top of my friend’s mega-feeds. To start with, how about a filter that shows me everything my friends tag as ‘fordarren’, regardless of what service it’s in?

Louis Gray wrote a post boosting FriendFeed, and I think his essential point was this:

There are a definitely a wide number of sites out there that let you share all your activity in one place, or to track friends’ activity, but FriendFeed is the only one that lets you share items directly to the feed, elevate discussions through comments and show “likes” to highlight individual posts.

Later, he re-emphasizes the interactive aspects of this very simple service.

Comments Here, There and Everywhere

That may have some appeal, but there’s a downside: FriendFeed splits the conversation around a given chunk of content.

Louis’s post is a great example. Currently there are nine comments on his blog. However, there are two other, distinct comments on the aggregated link in FriendFeed. The FriendFeed readers don’t see the blog comments, and vice versa. It’s like the conversation is happening in two languages, and some people aren’t understanding the whole thing. I occasionally see a similar problem in blog posts imported into my Facebook profile.

The solution to this problem is simple in theory, but painful to implement. There needs to be an open comments protocol that all of these services buy into, so that, for example, a comment in Flickr can also appear in FriendFeed and a blog post displaying that photo.

In my experience, these cross-industry APIs and standards take a long time to hash out and agree upon. Then it takes even longer for the sundry stakeholders to bake into the next release of their software. If this already exists, I’m not aware of it.

In the meantime, FriendFeed just bifurcates the interaction that Louis espouses.

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How Would You Use FriendFeed?

October 31st, 2007, 4 Comments »

James recently hooked me up with an invitation to FriendFeed. They offer a mega-feed of all your social media activity. It’s kind of a web-wide version of the Facebook news feed. For me, that amounts to these services:

FriendFeed Services

Those are my blog feed, deli.cio.us bookmarks, Digg activity, Flickr photos, Google Reader shared items, Last.fm ‘loved’ songs, Ma.gnolia bookmarks and StumbleUpon activity (they have a bunch of others, like Twitter and LinkedIn, that I don’t regularly use).

Holy crap. Who in their right mind would want to see all of that in one place? It’s my stuff, and I don’t even want to see it.

It’s telling that James sent me an invite for this service. We trade links back and forth quite regularly (James, here’s some live Weakerthans). We used to use Ma.gnolia to do this, but have since recognized that that’s just an extra step. We now rely on good old email.

Theoretically I might want to monitor James’s FriendFeed for stuff that interests me. Except, of course, most of what interests James probably won’t interest me. That’s true for any two people–there’s far more chaff than wheat. We filter the information that we send to each other, thereby imbuing those links with meaning. I don’t want the raw feed.

More Than I Signed Up For

I’ve got a related pet peeve about subscribing to blogs. Without mentioning it, a blogger will add to what was appearing in their RSS feed. They might, for example, add Flickr photos or bookmarks to their previous blog posts-only feed. This bugs me, because I’m no longer getting what I signed up for. I usually contact the blogger and request the pure blog post feed. Hopefully FriendFeed doesn’t exacerbate this problem.

When I think about FriendFeed, there are only two ways I would practically use it:

  • If FriendFeed or somebody else lays some clever filtering on top of my friend’s mega-feeds. To start with, how about a filter that shows me everything my friends tag as ‘fordarren’, regardless of what service it’s in?
  • If I wanted to stalk somebody, and collect the digital equivalent of every hair or scrap of skin they left behind.

    How would you use FriendFeed? If you want an invite, let me know.

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